Received Disciplinary Summons at my door from two unknown men.
reached out to Stake President and informed him that I was going to hold him accountable to the two lies that were in the Summons letter and asked for him to explain within two emails and one text – NO RESPONSE
I also asked him to move the Proceedings to a Saturday to help me have the time to recover emotionally before heading back to work and the the daily grind. I also informed him that I knew he would be told to give me 45 minutes and that I was asking for 45 more to give me 90 as my salvation and ties to my eternal family are at stake.
I get a email from my Stake President that avoids any conversation regarding my shining a light on his two lies. But he does chose to answer my questions though not in my favor
In regards to your questions on the timing and details of the council, here is what we can do:
- Regarding your request to move the council to Dec 2nd: Unfortunately, we cannot move the council to this date. We spent a lot of time as a presidency looking at dates, and Nov. 27th is the only date that will work. So we will need to keep that date. There are travels and building conflicts that make moving this date really difficult.
- Regarding your request to speak for 90 minutes: My thoughts are to give you 40-60 mins (or 4x longer than I speak). I am planning on taking 10-15 mins. I believe this will give you more than enough time to respond to the issues mentioned in my letter notifying you of the council.
I made three requests based on two procedural principles and rules lined out in the Church’s Handbook of Instruction. The handbook in the section on Disciplinary Councils states that the Proceedings are to be both FAIR and CONSIDERATE. It also states that the person being accused has a right to question the witness presenting evidence against him.
REQUEST #1 – To receive the details of the evidence against me so that I can prepare a response (a defense). The charges are general and I have been left in the dark about what specific actions or statements made by me are seen as justifying the general charges. Without these details ahead of time the proceedings are in no uncertain terms unfair and inconsiderate. CLICK HERE
REQUEST #2 – I request that my wife be present for these proceedings to be a support to me as well as the Church being CONSIDERATE to her that this affects her as much or more than it affects me. CLICK HERE
REQUEST #3 – I inform the Stake President that I am reserving the right to Question him regarding his two lies as well as other points that are important to this case as he seems to be the only witness against me. (It is he who is determining what evidence to make his case and It is he who has determined that this evidence is in fact evidence of what he claims it is Evidence of. CLICK HERE
– We also emailed the Stake High Councilmen on this day with the following message. I wanted them to be aware every step of the way about the dishonesty and the lack of Fairness and Consideration. I also wanted them to have a chance to get to know me and the issues I find concerning. CLICK HERE FOR THE WORDING
Followup with Stake President as no answer to three requests have been supplied
I see what you did. You crafted language around the charges that put you in the very best light as the Good Stake President who tried so hard to resolve Bro. Reel’s Concerns. You wanted those leaders above you to look approvingly at your effort. You were dishonest SP. And hence you have lost all credibility. Not just with me. Thousands of people are watching this proceeding ramp up. I am expecting an answer to my requests. To not respond is less kind and considerate than responding in ways that don’t meet those needs. I have asked if my wife can attend (is that fair? Kind? Considerate? I have asked if I can be informed of the evidence ahead of time? Is that fair? Kind? Considerate? I have asked to be able to question you? Is that Fair? I asked to have the date moved and of course you could easily move this ahead a week or two or three (the Handbook makes it clear every person in that room besides you and me can be substituted by another Priesthood holder.) Was me being the only person not consulted on if the date works kind? Fair? Considerate? We all know Salt Lake wants this done quickly and at a time and day to reduce bystanders and media hence the reasons for avoiding the date change.
By the way the confidentiality agreement and the “four times the time I will speak” are all Salt Lake. They have been used before in every high profile excommunication. You may be presiding over this event but It is now clear who is pulling the strings. That said I am still expecting you to be responsive on the requests I have made. You are showing your true colors which is loyalty to the organization over human decency. The Church is happy to let you be the front man taking the hit. Start doing the right thing. I deserve responses to my requests and I deserve you to acknowledge you shaded the facts to paint yourself in the best light to win approval of leaders above you. I fully expect to be excommunicated next Tuesday. My efforts are not to stop the proceedings. But I do expect common decency leading up to it in terms of responding fairly and in a timely manner to my requests and honesty about portraying the facts less than honestly.
11.19.18 – my followup
Thanks. Do you see how you’re avoiding most of the questions? Half truths and half transparency is neither truthful nor transparent. Would you please address each of the questions I have asked you.