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Radio Free Mormon: 054: The Renlunds, A Dilapidated Dinghy, and Church Wack-A-Mole Part 3

Today we tackle the Elder and Sister Renlund Devotional from January 13th 2019. We dissect the Renlunds two parables and their commentary about doubts and those who have them. Along the way we tackle their comparing the Church to a Dilapidated Dinghy as well as their concept of Church Wack-A-Mole. This is a three part series and we hope you enjoy!!!

Widstoe Talk on Doubt – chapter 7

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11 thoughts on “Radio Free Mormon: 054: The Renlunds, A Dilapidated Dinghy, and Church Wack-A-Mole Part 3

  1. In the 1980’s, Ezra Taft Benson had a talk about pride, “Beware of Pride”, after which church members became uncomfortable with using the word “proud” or “pride” in any context, such as talking about their kids. It was much like Nelson banning “Mormon”, though not as explicit.

    To give Elder Renlund’s father the benefit of the doubt, maybe his father was still under the impression that being “proud” in any context was still banned and was just trying go up to the line of using “proud”, but not crossing.

    I recall that, at the time of Ezra Taft Benson’s talk, parents would hint at the implied ban on “proud” and then use an alternative, indicating they were actually proud of their kids.

  2. Incredible. Might as well have titled it,
    “Christ calls us out of a Sinking Boatload of Lies.”

  3. Thank you Bill – I have really enjoyed you and RFM – You two are killing it.

  4. Great as usual. As a current example of “reliable sources”, have you noticed that the original Gospel Topics Essay on Book of Mormon Translation has been deleted and replaced with the recently issued topic on Book of Mormon Geography. You have to go to the Way Back Machine to capture the original essay on Translation. One more ding in the boat, “no doubt.”

    • Thanks. ANd I discovered you can still find it on the lds.org on my mobile device, but not my PC. Go figure.

      • Ah, hah! It appears it may have been an IT problem. It’s available now on PC. PRobably got the hyperlink for translation mixed up with the new essay/topic entry for B of M geography. Oh well, it’s still clear that the church is having a hard time dealing with the literal approach they took.

  5. I am reminded of the remarks of John Stuart Mill (1806–1873), On Liberty. 1869. Chapter II: Of the Liberty of Thought and Discussion – 150 years ago and still so true. A bit long but so pertinent to this type of attempt at suppression.

    … If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind. But the peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error.

    … The opinion which it is attempted to suppress by authority may possibly be true. They have no authority to decide the question for all mankind, and exclude every other person from the means of judging. To refuse a hearing to an opinion, because they are sure that it is false, is to assume that their certainty is the same thing as absolute certainty.

    … Absolute princes, or others who are accustomed to unlimited deference, usually feel this complete confidence in their own opinions on nearly all subjects. … [they] place the same unbounded reliance only on such of their opinions as are shared by all who surround them, or to whom they habitually defer.

  6. I found the discussion around doubt’s role in our lives to be exceptional. It really is a critical component of preparing to learn new things and moving our lives forward. I’ve had similar discussions, but never as articulate as the one in this podcast. Perhaps it may be worth having a short standalone podcast on doubt’s role in our own personal growth that we could point friends to. The fact that this doubt discussion is part of the review of Renlund’s talk may offend potential outside listeners.

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