Today we talk about Dying and Death. What do we believe about Death and Dying. Thoughts on coping with such. Thoughts around Please email us your questions and comments at AlmostAwakened AT Gmail DOT Com and visit us at AlmostAwakened.org
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How to Deal With Death
Coping With Death
12 suggestions for Coping with Death
Coping with Loss
Dealing with Death as you Age
Stages of Grief Kubler Ross
Stages of Grief Kubler Ross Model 2
Elisabeth Kubler-Ross facing her own death has a change of mind on God and end of life care
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Loved the perspectives, although personally I would have liked more time spent on the idea or comfort that believing in a literal resurrection as presented with the LDS doctrine even though you no longer hold on to that space because the perceived negatives.
Every perspective will bring its positive and negative aspect to it and at different stages in our life we need to hear about different perspectives. In dismissing LDS theology we shouldn’t forget of the comfort, love, and hope having those perspectives actually brings even if it doesn’t work for all.
I suppose I could have just said, well done, it was a great episode I really enjoyed it which I actually did, but let’s not assume that people are offering false comfort when they are truly sharing from the heart.
This podcast not only will not be addressing Mormonism directly it will in affect work to avoid such. That said I am sure we will hit on religious themes a from time to time.
Duly noted.
Although the Mormon Dream is still a noble one to consider and quite romantic in nature.
For whom do you speak for, David. The mormon “dream” as you say has me pregnant and giving birth for ETERNITY.
That was a doctrine I could never believe. So just know that your romantic dream was hell to others.
It’s sad to hear that being God’s together with your spouse ruling over your own universe didn’t sound attractive to you.
I don’t think creating physical children to be equally painful in the afterlife. Besides, it would mostly be about creating spiritual children rather than mortal ones.
I think the the theology can be tweaked in a way that both can be attractive for one another. But I’m sorry to hear that having glorified sex in the afterlife with resurrected inmortal bodies didn’t appeal to you. It does for me, even if it means tweaking it a bit.
I suppose this dream mostly works for those who communicate through Physical touch love language.
Bill, so sorry for pain and loss. Here are three of the best poems I’ve written on the subject of death. You may find one here that you like:
OPTICAL ILLUSION
Time is a stage magician
Pulling sleight-of-hand tricks
To make you think things go.
There—
Eclipsed by the quick scarf—
A lifetime of loves.
Zip—the child is man.
Zip—the friend in your arms is earth.
Zip—the green tree is gold, is white
Is smoking ash, is gone.
Zip—
Time’s trick goes on.
All things loved—
Now you see them, now you don’t.
Oh, this world has more
Of coming and of going
Than I can bear.
I guess it’s eternity I want,
Where all things are
And always will be,
Where I can hold my loves
A little looser,
Where finally we realize—
Time
Is the only thing that really dies.
***
POINT OF VIEW
Sun and mountain meet.
“Look,” I say,
“Sunset!”
But I forget
That far away
An islander
Wipes morning
From his eyes
And watches
The same sun
Rise.
What’s birth?
And death?
What’s near
Or far?
It all depends
On where you are.
***
VITAL SIGNS
How presumptuous we mortals are
Pronouncing one another dead
Because the eyes are closed
The lips are stilled
There is no motion in the narrow bed.
A man once came
To clear our definitions.
He knew all words, all places
All states of being
For he had traveled below all things
And above.
“Death,” he said, “is darkness, is hate.”
“And life,” he said, “is light, is love.”
Oh, look again.
A vital sign burns bright and gives
This word:
She loved, she loves, she yet will love.
And Love pronounces that she lives.
–Carol Lynn Pearson