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Great podcast episode. Thank you all.
Thank you Lila, this was a great podcast. I really appreciate and admire your honesty and courage to speak out. I started down the rabbit hole 3 years ago and I am (as far as I know) the only one on both sides of my TBM family that knows the truth.
This podcast has given me more courage to at least open some dialogue with my TBM wife, and hope that one day she will be open to even listening to some of these podcasts and perhaps having her eyes opened to the truth herself.
As always, thank you Bill and RFM. I hope you know how much good you are both doing. I echo Lilas many thanks to both of you and hope you can both continue to do these podcasts…..the service you are providing to thousands of us out here is invaluable.
Lila, that’s what I thought when I heard that your father used priesthood and 2nd anointing to shut down questioning. THAT is narcissistic. Yes, the church feeds those types, as well as crushing those always feeling inadequate, using narcissistic leaders to do it and get obedience for $alvation. New narcissists trained up, just as obedient followers are trained up. Just preaching going to the temple covers all of the bases, on either side.
But, political and “scientific” cults do the same exact thing and are just as enabling/empowering to narcissists and psychopaths and getting obedience out of sheeple.
Great conversation.
I choose to remain active in the church and try to be as nuanced as possible about all of it.
I suppose I embrace the motto, be the change I want to see in the church. So far people have been very accepting of my progressive views. I try to be fair and not overly critical.
I loved this podcast with Lila. Growing up myself in the 50s and 60s, I can tell you that Hartman Rector Jr. played large in my early Mormon years. Some of you may recall that we had Lila’s brother John down here in St George to speak to the Post-Mormon Association. I believe that was about 18 or so months ago, it was prior to Hartman’s passing and John was very respectful in his remarks toward his father. John’s transition out of Mormonism however was quite complete at the time.
Fantastic podcast! Lila, thank you for the courage to come forward in this venue to express what is so heart felt. I can only imagine how difficult it must be to listen to all the thoughts that go through your mind on a daily basis. Expressing in such candor, I hope many can find similar encouragement to continue in their own journeys. I am encouraged as the debate in my own head is daily and many times nightly so I genuinely appreciate all three of you putting this together.
The first shall be last and the last shall be first. I know injustices can be hard in this life, and they seem to be Lila’s main concern with the Church. Keep in mind that the restoration is a process, and that personal revelation is key. If there is a God, we are here for a reason. A temporary reason.
Thank you, Lila. Your brother Daniel and his little family lived next door to me in 1983 when he was doing an internship in Rexburg, Idaho. As you said, he was a very wonderful, sweet person. He introduced me to the Sunstone magazine and a progressive way of thinking that changed my life. I am so sorry to hear of his untimely death. Thank you for your bravery in sharing your story.
I enjoyed this interview very much. Having lived through the 70’s and 80’s it’s very interesting to get a behind the scenes view of some of the noteworthy events I can remember.