Mekael and Bill utilize this episode to discuss the this George Floyd moment. His death, the protests and riots, the systemic racism in this country, the police abuse, and most importantly the ethnocentricity and tribalism that all these abuses and inequalities are rooted in.
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I realize I may be going a bit off topic with my comment here, but I’m surprised with how far the new cultural expectation of erasing systematic racism is going with all this. Many places they are going after historical monuments and statues saying “Oh, Sir John A. McDonald has a checkered past… we can’t honor someone who was inhumane towards the native Indians”.
Now Salt Lake Tribune is running this article that maybe we should rename BYU, because obviously Brigham Young was a questionable character… and so we might as well bring a spot light to Joseph Smith questionable practices as well.
When it comes to historical figures, we can either focus on the light side or their shadow side. We all have a shadow side, but to bring down monuments because they were horrible human beings when no one had that in the forefront of their minds until someone points out the blind spot that no one was looking at and now we have a hard time seeing anything but… I fail to see how that is more awakened.
Sure we are noticing the blind spot, but now you can’t see anything else. That isn’t being awakened, if you fail to see the totality of a human being, which includes both the good and the bad.
I’m sure that the ultimate counter argument is what about Adolf Hitler. Should we have any statues of him around… I’m not sure that we do, but if we did if the majority of the public wants it remove I would agree, but if it’s only a minority of the public then no. There should be a democratic process to it.
The symbol for what Nazi Hitler stands today is very much different for the symbol of which Brigham Young represents in the minds of LDS.
This might just be one of the most insane podcast I have ever listened to. Let me just put this out there, if black people want the police to stop treating them as more threatening than white people, stop Committing so many crimes compared to other races, it’s that simple. Now that everyone reading this is pissed at me for telling the truth let me explain. Where I live there’s 3 neighborhoods emts can’t go in without a police escort during a 911 call. All 3 are black neighborhoods. The emts were tired of being robbed on fake 911 calls. Peoqould stop the ambulance and take the drugs and whatever else they could sell. Also, alot of the hotel’s in town back up to a all black neighborhood and the cops (black and white) are always picking up hotel guest while they are on a walk or jog, putting them in the squad car and taking them back to the hotel because they’re at a very high risk of getting robbed. I’m sorry, but this is just the facts were I live. If you want to act help black people stop portraying them as victims all the time. As a race they need to get there shit together and stop worrying about what happened 200 years ago and start worrying about the future. BLM is a terrorist organization and you 2 lilly white people can’t see that fact just like you couldn’t see that Joseph smith was a con man when you were a mormon.
The issue is so much more complex than you intimate here. Sadly it likely be impossible to get you to understand white privledge. My suggestion would be to start here. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/podcasts/1619-podcast.html
when teachers get it into their head to activate the race experiment, where half the class discriminates with the other half, there are black children that are terrified to the point they can’t even sleep at night….. it might have been an important way to understand tribal indifference, but please be compassionate enough to never use this race card in a very harmful way.