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Mormon Discussion: 313: Unhealthy Mechanisms That Deter You From Speaking Out

On today’s episode we explore the mechanisms within Mormonism that deter you from speaking your truth.  We talk about the pressure to either soften your rhetoric or be silent all-together.  Once you grasp how pervasive such is, you may want to reconsider falling for it.

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7 thoughts on “Mormon Discussion: 313: Unhealthy Mechanisms That Deter You From Speaking Out

  1. “Contention,” to the church. means disagreeing with leaders, especially disagreeing with their lies, bullying, abuse…, disagreeing with their VIP free-pass status (from “Jeeezus”) for their lies and accountability, endless double standards the real Jesus warned of.

    You are bad, “contentious,” if you bring up truth and reject outright lies exactly as Jesus taught us to do especially with what He called “Ravening leaders in fine wool suits.” Not His church? The other brother’s plan of forcing and bullying goodness to save us, the glory to Them?

    Matt 7:
    3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

    4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

    5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

    6 ¶ Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
    ……..
    15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

    16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

    18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

    19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

    20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

    21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    24 ¶ Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:…

  2. I take issue with use of the term “inactive”.

    To me inactivity is defined as sitting in church listening the same lessons over and over and over again for decades.

  3. Two comments: Bill, you use some language that also is not quite right. You say “Messiness of Mormonism”. That is not accurate. A more accurate phrase would be “Deceptions of Mormonism”. Its not messy–its built on lies. I am certain you accept that its built on deception.

    Second, I accept the idea of “Faith Crisis” being poor language as well. I don’t know a catchy way to express what this means to me, but its something like this: “Shocked and angry at being deceived by the FALSE faith ideals of the LDS church”.

    I believe the LDS church is in some real trouble. It seems this whole change in curriculum is geared at saving the younger generation–but in the scope of things, the generation I belong to is being sacrificed. How INFURIATING. The LDS church is impotent–they don’t have answers to questions, so they use control tactics to not allow those questions to be valid in the first place

    Yep…”Shocked and angry at being deceived by the FALSE faith ideals of the LDS church” is about right.

  4. Why hide behind “my truth”?

    Words have meaning and truth is a real thing.

  5. I enjoyed this podcast.

    “I have a hard time with historians because they idolize the truth. The truth is not uplifting; it destroys. I could tell most of the secretaries in the church office building that they are ugly and fat. That would be the truth, but it would hurt and destroy them. Historians should tell only that part of the truth that is inspiring and uplifting.” ~ Boyd Packer

    I disagree with Mr. Packer – avoiding the truth is like burying your head in the sand or ignoring the elephant in the room. Perhaps context, the roles people are in, and other variables matter when talking about the certain parts of the truth. It might be improper for a church leader to tell secretaries they are fat, yet a caring family member or physician might. Who gets to decide whether or not truth is useful and under what context?

  6. Bill, thank you so much. I only wish I was in a better position financially to give more support to your work, than the tiny bit of the past. I’ve always enjoyed and benefited from your podcasts and this one was absolutely brilliant, super insightful and spot-on. So glad Jonathan Streeter brought my attention to it.

    Aside from your obvious gift of intelligence, you have what for me is the amazing ability of exposing and bringing to light the real underlying issues, that have largely been ignored or invisible for too long.

  7. Bill, thank you so much. I only wish I was in a better position financially to give more support to your work, than the tiny bit of the past. I’ve always enjoyed and benefited from your podcasts and this one was absolutely brilliant, super insightful and spot-on. So glad for Jonathan Streeter’s praise full post that led me to it.

    You have what for me is the amazing ability to intelligently and honestly look at things through the veils, and with careful thought, expose the underlying issues that have largely been ignored/denied or simply invisible for too long.

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