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Mormon Discussion: 360: The Holy Ghost as a Trump Card

How Elevation Emotion is used as a trump card and corrupted by giving it a new name, that of “The Holy Ghost”

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  1. Thank you, Bill, for sharing your story with your close relative and modeling a way to help make our relationships be balanced and healthy with those that disagree with us. I’m sorry you experienced that negativity, but I’m inspired by your example of strength in that instance. Too often, there is pressure to let the LDS church and its member dictate the terms of our relationships, which is unhealthy.

    No doubt, your relative felt — through what they consider to be “the Spirit” — that they were justified in being abusive. Too often, it would seem that the slogan of some LDS church members is “Having the Holy Ghost means never having to say ‘sorry’.”

    I wish you all the best on the great work that you and your podcasting cohorts are doing.

  2. Really great episode, enjoyed it to the 9’s!

    One small housekeeping matter: The doctrine that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost are one BEING isn’t mainstream Christian doctrine, it’s pure Mormon dogma and a clear difference doctrinal difference between the two stances.

    The mainstream Christian doctrine of the Trinity, in a nutshell, is as follow:

    The Bible teaches that God is an uncreated, eternal omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent Being consisting of three uncreated, co-eternal, co-equal, co-omnipotent, co-omnipresent, co-omniscient and distinct Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are one in essence, yet three in person – one God.

    However, if you want a fuller explanation I will simply refer you to the best-written description of the Trinity that I or anyone else have found in the last 1,700 or so years: https://beggarsbread.org/2016/01/24/the-athanasian-creed/

    To validate my above claim please consider the Three Persons, one Being distinction that I have provided against this from an official, correlated source:

    “where Latter-day Saints differ from other Christian religions is in their belief that God and Jesus Christ are glorified, physical beings and that each member of the Godhead is a separate being…

    The Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bones, and the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit (see D&C 130:22).

    Although the members of the Godhead are distinct beings with distinct roles, they are one in purpose and doctrine. They are perfectly united in bringing to pass Heavenly Father’s divine plan of salvation.”
    (“Godhead”; https://www.lds.org/topics/godhead?lang=eng ; retrieved December 15, 2016)

    I hope you can see the difference between the two stances now.

    Thank you and keep up the great work, Bill!

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